i was looking forward to seeing him, i was curious as to what positive changes his raw food diet was having on him, the first and last time i saw him, was in thailand, in 2006, while traveling along with mango, enjoying our fruitarian holiday in the tropics, with focus on the mighty durian.. yeah, i am talking about harley, the big 811 enthusiast.
it was at the end of the year 2009, or maybe the beginning of 2010, i am not sure, i was sitting under a huge mango tree next to the communal kitchen at fruitopia, along with, mango and our fruitarian documentary crew david and emile. we were all enjoying the beauty of a tropical summer day.. freelee, also joined us, and we were all chatting away, when her boyfriend harley, arrived.. full of energy as always, almost manic, he greeted us all with a smile and hug, and as soon as he sat down to join our small group his eyes landed on me and he said with full confidence to me: "you are dehydrated". oh, why me? why not others? i asked myself much later on.. but then i felt a bit annoyed, but i did my best not to let it get to me and i answered: "so, you really think i am dehydrated? after being, fruitarian for 24 years, eating raw fresh fruit full of water, not feeling any discomfort, including thirst?" i do not remember how our conversation exactly followed, but we ended up having a short debate about it and i stopped it after i realized that we were both too sure about correctness of our eating and drinking habits, as i am not keen on talking in circles, our ideas about drinking reached an end. i also noticed that during our conversation harley was eating at least a one kg bag full of dried bananas, followed shortly after by drinking a fair amount of water. i thought, no wonder he is thirsty, the dried fruit is deprived of it's best value, water. it is old and processed. i said so, but i am not sure any more of the answer, i am sure i would be able to remember it, had it made any sense.
in our short conversation about my dehydration, when i asked: "why should i drink water, if i am not thirsty? And why should i drink water even if i were thirsty? " then i added by way of clarification: "if i were ever thirsty i would drink or eat raw fresh fruit, i believe it would rehydrate me much better than water. harley said to me :"well, you have to drink even when you are not thirsty". "hmm, that does not make sense to me, i believe in my body's innate intelligence and were i to get thirsty i would drink just as when i am hungry i eat" said i. but harley told me: "you have to eat and drink way before you are hungry or thirsty". and i honestly forget his reasons for this belief, i admit i'm not very keen on memorizing things i can see no sense in.
honestly i didn't know what the symptoms of dehydration were, i'd not had any health problems to look into it. i am someone who enjoys eating and drinking raw fresh fruit and benefits great health from doing so, and i didn't feel i had need for such knowledge.
a little later, while talking with judith, who along with the rest of her family is a long term raw fooder, i mentioned my conversation about dehydration with harley, she looked amused and said: "if you had been dehydrated for twenty four years, you would surely be dead already." i fully agreed with her. what she said made sense to me.
well, i am truly happy with my raw fresh fruitarian diet, and am not looking for any changes in it, like starting drinking water just because someone says i should. i would do it only if i felt thirsty and only if I was unable to quench my thirst with raw fresh fruit.. So since i don't experience thirst, i can happily let go of such a notion.
Installed within my blog I have a little gadget called fedjet, a small program that shows me visitor statistics. I rarely look at the page, but a few months ago, when i was perusing it, i noticed there were a few visitors reaching my blog through 30 bananas a day, harley and freelee's forum. so i had a look to see what page of that forum the links came from and saw it was from a debate about drinking water while on a fruirarian diet.
here is the link: http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/fruitarianism-water-and-why?xg_source=activity&id=2684079%3ABlogPost%3A534145&page=2#comments
here is some text written by harley i've cut and copied from the thread:
Maybe you gang will become the new wave of vital 'fruitarians that dont drink water' or maybe youll join the pile of bloated, isolated, fatigued, emaciated and binge prone 'fruitarians' that we have today?
My housemate died last year from renal failure. We take hydration real serious and she used to talk just like you peeps are talk'n now. Its spooky.
the conversation on the link i've pasted here is long and it took me time to read it all, there are more words from harley and freelee as well, and i disagree with both of them. but i agree with almost everything that others had to say, i could see a lot of sense in what others had to say in the debate, but to my amazement, harley and freelee ignored it all.
i think this article is getting way too long, and i hope i've made my point and i'd like to stop here. i am going to cover in detail this important topic in my fruitarian book. yes, i am still working on it.
and whoever is curious to heear about the symptoms of dehydration, here they are:
Symptoms of Dehydration: Introduction
Often the first symptom a person with dehydration experiences is thirst. By the time thirst is experienced, dehydration is already occurring. Not all people, especially the elderly, may experience or be aware of thirst in the early stages of dehydration. Other symptoms may include dry mouth, dry lips, sunken eyes, inability to make tears and little or no urine production
In infants symptoms of dehydration may include a sunken fontanel (soft spot) on the top of the head, no tears with crying, and fewer wet diapers.
Other symptoms can include headache, rapid heartbeat, fatigue, weakness, lightheadedness, dizziness, and dry skin.
Untreated severe dehydration can lead to serious, even life-threatening complications, including postural hypotension, lethargy, kidney failure, shock, coma and death....
i've copied these symptoms of dehydration from here:
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/d/dehydration/symptoms.htm
dear readers of my blog, i swear that i never experience any symptoms of dehydration, and therefore i am sure harley is wrong.
with raw fresh fruit, life is clear of confusion
pineapple, pawpaw and tomatoes in our kitchen, the mighty fruit full of true water of life, hydrating successfully my body and soul.
me enjoying bush walking and taking pictures, usually i walk bare food, but when ground is way too rocky for me i wear socks, so my very sensitive feet don't get hurt
yahoo, down the hill i go, still taking the pictures..
i am easily amused by insects, rocks etc.. this time on my way getting ready for serious sun exposure..
and when i had enough of relaxing in hot spring tropical sun, i jumped happily into the beautiful natural creek. i love to swim.
life is beautiful
it was at the end of the year 2009, or maybe the beginning of 2010, i am not sure, i was sitting under a huge mango tree next to the communal kitchen at fruitopia, along with, mango and our fruitarian documentary crew david and emile. we were all enjoying the beauty of a tropical summer day.. freelee, also joined us, and we were all chatting away, when her boyfriend harley, arrived.. full of energy as always, almost manic, he greeted us all with a smile and hug, and as soon as he sat down to join our small group his eyes landed on me and he said with full confidence to me: "you are dehydrated". oh, why me? why not others? i asked myself much later on.. but then i felt a bit annoyed, but i did my best not to let it get to me and i answered: "so, you really think i am dehydrated? after being, fruitarian for 24 years, eating raw fresh fruit full of water, not feeling any discomfort, including thirst?" i do not remember how our conversation exactly followed, but we ended up having a short debate about it and i stopped it after i realized that we were both too sure about correctness of our eating and drinking habits, as i am not keen on talking in circles, our ideas about drinking reached an end. i also noticed that during our conversation harley was eating at least a one kg bag full of dried bananas, followed shortly after by drinking a fair amount of water. i thought, no wonder he is thirsty, the dried fruit is deprived of it's best value, water. it is old and processed. i said so, but i am not sure any more of the answer, i am sure i would be able to remember it, had it made any sense.
in our short conversation about my dehydration, when i asked: "why should i drink water, if i am not thirsty? And why should i drink water even if i were thirsty? " then i added by way of clarification: "if i were ever thirsty i would drink or eat raw fresh fruit, i believe it would rehydrate me much better than water. harley said to me :"well, you have to drink even when you are not thirsty". "hmm, that does not make sense to me, i believe in my body's innate intelligence and were i to get thirsty i would drink just as when i am hungry i eat" said i. but harley told me: "you have to eat and drink way before you are hungry or thirsty". and i honestly forget his reasons for this belief, i admit i'm not very keen on memorizing things i can see no sense in.
honestly i didn't know what the symptoms of dehydration were, i'd not had any health problems to look into it. i am someone who enjoys eating and drinking raw fresh fruit and benefits great health from doing so, and i didn't feel i had need for such knowledge.
a little later, while talking with judith, who along with the rest of her family is a long term raw fooder, i mentioned my conversation about dehydration with harley, she looked amused and said: "if you had been dehydrated for twenty four years, you would surely be dead already." i fully agreed with her. what she said made sense to me.
well, i am truly happy with my raw fresh fruitarian diet, and am not looking for any changes in it, like starting drinking water just because someone says i should. i would do it only if i felt thirsty and only if I was unable to quench my thirst with raw fresh fruit.. So since i don't experience thirst, i can happily let go of such a notion.
Installed within my blog I have a little gadget called fedjet, a small program that shows me visitor statistics. I rarely look at the page, but a few months ago, when i was perusing it, i noticed there were a few visitors reaching my blog through 30 bananas a day, harley and freelee's forum. so i had a look to see what page of that forum the links came from and saw it was from a debate about drinking water while on a fruirarian diet.
here is the link: http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/fruitarianism-water-and-why?xg_source=activity&id=2684079%3ABlogPost%3A534145&page=2#comments
here is some text written by harley i've cut and copied from the thread:
Maybe you gang will become the new wave of vital 'fruitarians that dont drink water' or maybe youll join the pile of bloated, isolated, fatigued, emaciated and binge prone 'fruitarians' that we have today?
My housemate died last year from renal failure. We take hydration real serious and she used to talk just like you peeps are talk'n now. Its spooky.
the conversation on the link i've pasted here is long and it took me time to read it all, there are more words from harley and freelee as well, and i disagree with both of them. but i agree with almost everything that others had to say, i could see a lot of sense in what others had to say in the debate, but to my amazement, harley and freelee ignored it all.
i think this article is getting way too long, and i hope i've made my point and i'd like to stop here. i am going to cover in detail this important topic in my fruitarian book. yes, i am still working on it.
and whoever is curious to heear about the symptoms of dehydration, here they are:
Symptoms of Dehydration: Introduction
Often the first symptom a person with dehydration experiences is thirst. By the time thirst is experienced, dehydration is already occurring. Not all people, especially the elderly, may experience or be aware of thirst in the early stages of dehydration. Other symptoms may include dry mouth, dry lips, sunken eyes, inability to make tears and little or no urine production
In infants symptoms of dehydration may include a sunken fontanel (soft spot) on the top of the head, no tears with crying, and fewer wet diapers.
Other symptoms can include headache, rapid heartbeat, fatigue, weakness, lightheadedness, dizziness, and dry skin.
Untreated severe dehydration can lead to serious, even life-threatening complications, including postural hypotension, lethargy, kidney failure, shock, coma and death....
i've copied these symptoms of dehydration from here:
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/d/dehydration/symptoms.htm
dear readers of my blog, i swear that i never experience any symptoms of dehydration, and therefore i am sure harley is wrong.
with raw fresh fruit, life is clear of confusion
pineapple, pawpaw and tomatoes in our kitchen, the mighty fruit full of true water of life, hydrating successfully my body and soul.
me enjoying bush walking and taking pictures, usually i walk bare food, but when ground is way too rocky for me i wear socks, so my very sensitive feet don't get hurt
yahoo, down the hill i go, still taking the pictures..
i am easily amused by insects, rocks etc.. this time on my way getting ready for serious sun exposure..
and when i had enough of relaxing in hot spring tropical sun, i jumped happily into the beautiful natural creek. i love to swim.
life is beautiful
12 comments:
cest le vie!
Kveta, Harley has some very strong opinions and naturally being very passionate he can't stand by and not speak if he sees something that he doesn't agree with.
Often his way of doing things rubs people the wrong way, but when he speaks it is with the best intention.
I say don't let it get to you, that is just his way. A good guy with a heart of gold, but not the best tactitian.
If you feel fine without drinking water, then don't. It would be nice if you didn't have to defend yourself about your choices - you're most likely more hydrated than most people on a SAD diet anyway! Enjoy your mangoes, oranges and melons and don't worry about what Harley or anyone else says.
(hehe, the word verification for this comment is berri!)
hi cosmic,
sure it is :))
Hi jay,
i like Harley, and acknowledge he's doing good work on many levels, but i there is certainly a lot he says that i disagree with, and i just wished to set the record straight with the water (i'm not a member of 30bad, so am unable to comment directly there).
kveta
A lot of what you say rings true with me! I experimented with eating only fresh raw fruit for two months and experienced radiant health and no more chapped lips! I have decided to go back to eating this way because for sure I haven't felt healthier since then.
You look healthier and happier than a lot of people in this world that I have seen. I think it all has to do with what you experience personally.
There is such a high water content in so many fruits so why would you need more?
I love your blog!!! Very inspiring!!!
dear trina,
i am glad you made it and you experienced the magic powers of fruit. i am also satisfyed with only fruit, living happy healthy existence and i have no reason to change it.
yeah, not only that fruit is mainly water, but on top of it, the fruit water is packed with a lot of goodness, which is not present in water.
i am pleased you are enjoying my blog :)))
i wish you success on your fruity path.
love,
kveta
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you have a good life style ;)
Very interesting article!
I just started my 100% fruitarian journey a week ago and I am extremely excited. I have been vegan since 18 months, raw vegan since 11 months and low-fat raw vegan since 6 months. Right now I'm on a orange juice "fast" and I cycle between detox times and blissful times.
I got banned/suspended from 30bananasaday.com last month after I posted a blog talking about that I barely drink any water living on high-water content fruits and that the strict water recommandations of Durianrider aren't always valid.
Here is what the blog said:
http://vegan182.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-got-suspended-from-30bananasadaycom.html
I did read your blog and i agree with you Astro, I am only on raw fresh fruit over twenty years and i don't need any water. I am never thirsty. Harley also told me i am dehydrated, but if that was so, i would be long time dead. I have no health problems. I use common sense, i eat when i am hungry and i don't drink because i am not thirsty.
Hi Marshall and MrPerfecT, thank you for posting. i love my life and the beautiful nature of Far North Queenslad.
hug,
kveta
Hi Astro, one more thing:
Enjoy all you do,
Hug,
kveta
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